yo bennett...

[corporate p]

...what was that italian company you were talking about yesterday?

[benitosan]

what were we talking about?  custom frames?  i don't remember cuz i'm old and i get drunk easily.
remind me what we were talking about, i might remember...

[corporate p]

the component group that you said was cheaper than campy.

[benitosan]

no, we were talking old-school!

top tier is CAMPAGNOLO
second tier is GIPIEMME (the one in question now)
lower tier is SANTE

GIPIEMME is great stuff, just not as famous nor expensive as Campagnolo, do it Pavel!